Ep 139: Who’s Actually Running the Show: Hypnotherapy, Breathwork, and Why Willpower Keeps Losing

You set the goal, built the morning routine, and brought the discipline. Yet somehow you ended up right back where you started.

Hypnotherapist and Master NLP Practitioner Aaron James Yager has a simple explanation: the part of you making the decision is not the part running the show. The subconscious manages the body and the behavior, and its first job is keeping you safe, which means it treats anything unfamiliar as a threat — including the life you say you want.

In this episode, we get into:

– Why willpower keeps losing to the subconscious, and where that programming comes from
– What hypnotherapy actually is, as distinct from the version you have seen on a stage
– The parallel between an inhibited muscle that will not fire and a belief that will not shift, and why speaking affirmations in the mirror so often do nothing
– Combining the Neubie, breathwork and hypnotherapy in a single session to promote the neurological perception of safety
– How to up-regulate or down-regulate in under fifteen breaths

At NeuFit, we’re often working on the nervous system from the outside in, through direct electrical input. Aaron works on it from the inside out, through breath, hypnosis, and language. Both run into the same wall: you cannot reason a nervous system out of a state it believes is keeping you alive. And what this conversation is really about is the way through – change the state first, and the content work starts to stick.

 

 

TRANSCRIPT

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (00:01.154)
Hello, New Fit Nation. Welcome back to the Undercurrent podcast. I’m joined today by a longtime friend, Aaron James Yeager, who I met many years ago, and we did some New Fit work together and then we got to reconnect recently. And I got to learn more about what he’s up to and thought it would make a fascinating podcast episode. So I’m excited to have him on to talk about the work that he’s doing with the nervous system. And we’ll be able to connect a lot of dots between his work with the subconscious and with breath work and

hypnosis and work with NewFit. So I’m I’m really excited to dive into this. Mr. Aaron, welcome.

Aaron James Yager (00:39.96)
Man, thanks for having me. I’m really excited to one, be connected again with you and the new f New Fit team, but also being on here to talk about some cool things. So thanks for having me.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (00:48.556)
Yes, this is a continuation of a conversation that we had at lunch a few weeks ago where I was we just were connecting many, many dots here. And you have a fascinating background as you shared with me. You started doing NLP and hypnotherapy back in your late teens. So you’ve been at this a long time. Can you give us little bit of your origin story and help people understand how one gets onto a path like this?

Aaron James Yager (00:55.098)
Yeah.

Aaron James Yager (01:08.41)
Yeah.

Aaron James Yager (01:16.218)
Totally. I I don’t even know if I share this story with you, but it started with my grandfather. So it was my mom’s dad. And actually goes even further. It’s back about when I was nine or nine and a half years old. So I was living in in Wilmington, Delaware, where I was born in the East Coast. I’m the East Coast boy. I had always had a fascination for technology. I loved music. And as I was growing up, I I was outgrowing my little Teddy Ruxpin red record like a tape recorder thing.

And I really wanted to step to the next level to get like a really cool stereo system, one that had the ability to dub tapes and one that had a CD player and boom box and all that kind of stuff. So I knew that if it went to mom and dad, they would put me to do more chores. I was already doing plenty of chores. So I’m like, I don’t I don’t want to do more. But if I put some childhood persuasion to work and I went to mom me, me and Papa, my my mom’s parents, then maybe I could get this stereo. So I had a Crutchfield magazine out in front of me, which

For those of you who don’t know that is, it’s like we didn’t have internet back then. So it was like a the magazine that you would get in the mail, it was all mail order stuff. So I had all the the highlights and circled what I want it for and all that. So fast forward to go to grandma meet me at Popop’s house and I sit pop down and I told him I did the pitch, like this is what I want, this is why I want it. And he sat there and reflected. He thought it was really adorable that I was like, you know, pitching him this stereo that I wanted. But here’s what he did. I’m gonna pause that story. He reflected back two weeks previous to this moment.

When I had just come out just from playing outside it on his couple of acres that he owned in in Delaware, I came into his office space and he had these, you know, beautiful, huge, beautiful mahogany shelves in his office all the way around, full of books, full of audio tapes, full of videos, encyclopedias, all that, like full of books. And he had jazz music on, he was cleaning his counter his shelves, and I just came in looking around and curious kid. I was just like, Pop up, why do you have so many books? Why do you have

So many of these his books everywhere. Some of them look the same. And I had this curiosity in his his knowledge library. Well, he took that as an interesting moment and he said, Hey, sit down with me. And he went and grabbed different books and audio tapes and things from his bookshelves. And he sat me down. And if you can picture like this white couch with a table right in front of it, with a a white-haired grandfather full of wisdom, and this little red-headed kid full of curiosity. And he had all these books out. And for

Aaron James Yager (03:42.779)
Which is a long time for a nine year old, nine and a half year old, like for almost two hours. He sat there with me and went through why he had these books, why he read these books, why it was important to gain knowledge, to earn more money, to have a better job, to take care of your family, to learn shortcut math, creative thinking. We went through that for a while. And then, you know, I got bored and I I went off out into my into back to my playtime. Well, come back to when I’m sitting on the couch when he’s sitting in this chair and I’m pitching him the the stereo. He had this idea and he said, he said, Aaron.

I’m gonna dare you to do something. I’m gonna challenge you to take a book, an audio tape, or a video from my library that I give you. I want you to read, listen to, or these for once a day, 30 to 45 minutes. Take in the information. Then write down two paragraphs about what you learned that day. Then at the end of the week, we’ll review it together for, you know, an hour or so. If you do this with me for one year, I will buy you that stereo or one better. So what he did was took a burning desire.

And linked it to a program of which I already had interest in, created a program of it with accountability that I had to do outside of school, outside of friends, outside of sports. And that became my my kaizen, my little getting a little bit better every single day and flooding my subconscious mind with this kind of self development. So that’s how I got started is getting exposure to all this different in neurolinguistic programming, how to think, how to become or

you know, through Think and Grow Rich, the psychology of winning by Dennis Waitley, like all the early night and go Conant stuff. I just got exposed to it at an early age.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (05:21.592)
That’s awesome. I I’m very inspired by the story of your grandfather. I’m I’m a big library guy. I’ve got a lot of a lot of books. I believe that readers are leaders and I think the the books that I’ve read over the last decade have certainly had a profound influence on me. And I I love that. I love that story. So I really appreciate you sharing that.

Aaron James Yager (05:41.809)
Thank you. Thank you. That that kind of gives people a idea. And that’s why I like my display is books. I just love having books around me and that knowledge. So that started down my path of then getting into neurolinguistic programming in LP. And those for those of you who don’t know what that is, that’s the language of the mind. It is the ability, it’s been around since the 70s. or maybe a little bit longer than that, but it’s the science of the mind. It’s how do we get results, whether it’s from quitting smoking to dealing with deep deep childhood trauma.

To rewiring the mind for success. And so I started going. I was the youngest kid in the seminar, and my grandfather was the oldest. And I just started going to these seminars and learning this kind of stuff. And just it it clicked for me. It’s just something I always wanted to be. So I’ve always been kind of a coach, healing mindset, wanting to be a part of helping people go from here to this next best version of themselves. So that’s what got me into this world of of discovering how we can help other people.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (06:36.056)
That’s awesome. And you’ve been at this now for decades, literally. And what

Aaron James Yager (06:39.453)
Yeah. I’m forty five. I’m forty five now. So I was eighteen or I was nine years old when that program started, but I got my neurolinguistic programming certification, hypnotherapy all at eighteen, nineteen. So I’ve been doing the coaching work, cert coaching certification since then.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (06:55.266)
That’s awesome. And one of the things that I’ve seen in your social media presence and website is this term that you call yourself a subconscious recoder. And I really like that because you just mentioned, for example, the someone that the the mentioned the example of someone who wants to quit smoking. They intellectually may want to do it, but it may be very difficult. And so I’m fascinated by these experiences where

There’s some desire or intention someone has at a conscious level. They have goals, they have the discipline and the willpower, they have a morning routine, but they keep ending up back because of that subconscious really running the show. So why is it that intellectually deciding to change doesn’t necessarily work as a starting point here?

Aaron James Yager (07:39.601)
Yeah. This is the main that’s such a great question. Great place to start. Everything is pretty much everything goes through our subconscious mind. Our entire body is our subconscious mind at play in the physical. What do I mean by that? Well, when we have injuries, when we have chronic pain, when we have things that are coming up, whether it’s a left side, right side, our throat gets, we get stuff stuck in our throat. Those are all messages from our subconscious mind, from our higher self, from universe, whatever you want to call it.

These are data points. So feelings and emotions, whether they’re good or bad, as people have labeled them because of the way they feel, feelings and emotions, all of them are gifts. Even rage, anger, despair, sadness, depression, all these things are gifts because what it’s doing is delivering data points to us as a human being and messages on how we can live from our full being, not just our mind. A lot of us like to live up here and think everything and figure everything out and how, how, how.

As opposed to living from a what I call the central intelligence system, solar, spirit, mind, heart, and gut. When we have that alignment in our body and we’re embodied and using our mind as the tool that it is, we’re able to work better with our subconscious mind and listen more to the inner voice. So that’s that’s that’s kind of why because everything is our behaviors, our our our stomach, our digestion, our heartbeat, everything is run by our subconscious mind. But it’s also

The number one objective is to keep us alive, keep us safe. So every morning you wake up in the morning, pats itself on the back, and says, Good, I kept you, I kept this human alive. But what happens when things aren’t safe? Like I want to make a million dollars this year, I want to have the best relationship I’ve ever, I’m the most beautiful person in my life, I want to do this, I want to do that. Those new things aren’t safe to it. So it’ll reject them and keep you safe, keep you in the loop that no, no, no, we only know $90,000 a year. That’s good. We know that. That’s really safe.

Your dad never made more than that. So that’s that’s not safe. We shouldn’t go higher than that. Whatever it is. Trauma doesn’t have to be big trauma, small trauma. It doesn’t matter. Trauma’s trauma. Things happen to us. Doesn’t even have to be trauma. It can just be coding, programming from the radio, from mom and dad, from friends, from the uncle, from the grandparents, people, whatever’s g happening basically between zero and ten is being wired in at that young age. And unfortunately we’re not taught how to do the breath work and how to do the

Aaron James Yager (10:07.172)
recoding at a young age. So it builds and builds and stacks and stacks and stacks. And we hold on to it or sweep it under the rug and we don’t want to feel the negwondes. We just want to feel happiness and joy. And then this ease comes into our body or f injuries happen. Or we just get stuck in these loops. And then people think, well, I set goals, but I can’t hit them. I they just I’m just going to stay, you know, complacent. I’m going to still stay comfortable. So hopefully that answers your question kind of a longer, longer way. Like it’s really important how we to get it

A relationship with our subconscious mind.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (10:39.79)
I I love that and wanna dive in further and also it reminds me of something that I covered in two episodes ago, talking about the the overlap with the connection between mind and body, which really isn’t connection, it’s unity, it’s one system and it’s more like a house with two different doors. And I I’m fascinated by these parallels between

The world that we work in day to every day at Newfit, where people have injury, physical trauma, that even after it’s healed, can still leave pain, can still leave movement dysfunction. The body can still be protecting and guarding and inhibiting as if that injury has just happened, even if it’s already healed, because that pattern gets locked in. And so too can that happen emotionally and psychologically. It’s the same way that we we have compensatory movement patterns, same thing. We’ll have compensatory behaviors.

And hearing you talk about that just reminds me of these fascinating parallels there. And one of the things that that we think a lot about is how to break those patterns of movement, how to demonstrate to the nervous system that it is safe to go back into this range of motion or to exert force through that particular tissue. And it’s really a form of exposure therapy, showing the nervous system that it’s safe over time. How do you do the analogous process with the subconscious? And of course

You we’d love to hear more in more in depth more in depth, more detail about hypnotherapy and NLP, but how do how do you actually convince the subconscious that it’s safe to earn greater than that dollar amount in the example that you were using or whatever whatever it might be?

Aaron James Yager (12:23.95)
Yeah, great question. Because you can use the machine, you can use the the newbie in conjunction with this to actually make that process easier. So we’ll get to that. But to answer your question first, so what we’re doing, hypnotherapy, a lot of people think, yeah, I’ve seen it on TV or a stage hypnosis where somebody’s holding a little thing and they’re getting hypnotized with the the the watch, or they’ve seen Chris Angel and things people do things on stage, making somebody cluck like a chicken. That’s stage hypnosis.

That’s that’s a very those are very tr talented people who understand how to find the people in the audience that are very susceptible to hypnotherapy, to getting unconscious. So here’s the easiest way to explain it is we’re always in a state of hypnosis. We’re always in and out of a stage of hypnosis. So when we wake up in the morning, we’re coming out of delta. So delta is like the the the lowest frequency there. it’s it’s it’s like we’re we’re asleep, we’re unconscious to the world. As we come up, we have theta.

This is where the real magic happens. This is the hypnotic state, is where we can recode anything. We go back in time. Time is not really real. The time is a tool. It allows our conscious mind to understand present, past, and future. We can go back to any moment in our life. It’s all recorded. And we go back and reach configure and change those, the emotions around them, the inner child work, all that. That’s in theta. You are in control of yourself the whole time, but you’re not asleep. Although some people, when they’re in hypnotherapy, can look like they’re asleep. Their body is just lethargic.

Your body’s just in a state of reception. Then we go up, your eyes are still closed. This is alpha, the meditative state. This is when you close your eyes.

You can take that deep breath and you can really start to relax into that very quickly. But then we have conscious. You and I are in beta right now. We’re beta, we’re we’re planning, we’re choosing, we’re using the prefrontal cortex more. Those are the different levels of which we are up and down through. Now there’s even faster ones, but we don’t need talk about that. So in this in this state, how we manipulate or how we influence our subconscious mind is get down in in a theta. We can do that through breath work. We can do that through.

Aaron James Yager (14:28.892)
induction. So there’s certain things of ways that I speak, ways that I slow down, certain things that I say to help people drop into a very relaxed state. Once they’re in this state, we can start working with the unconscious mind, the old stories, the old patterns, all the stuff that’s been programmed and rewire that with words, with experiences, going back to memories and rewire those. That’s the easiest way I can explain it. It’s essentially it’s meditation with a goal, with an end result.

We’re not just meditating, hypnotherapy and this reconscious recoding is to create an end result that is different than where they at where they are.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (15:04.97)
And I’ve actually gotten to do this recently, so I’m really excited to talk having had some first hand experience. Can you can you describe what a session is like? I mean you sort of mentioned it’s it’s like meditation but with a goal. So how are you actually guiding somebody through this experience?

Aaron James Yager (15:24.43)
Yeah. It’s very, it’s very simple. Like we’re we’re on to call it like a lot of my work is remote. So the person will be laying down or sitting down, but nice and comfortable. Phones on, do not disturb. They’re in private place. Usually have headphones on and a blind a blindfold just to, you know, create a more immersive experience. And I simply start with having them start doing deep breaths in through their nose and out for six. We’re just breathing for a little bit with me. Now sometimes we’ll start with actual breath work to really get them like if they’ve been had a stressful day. I ask them, Hey, what

level are you zero to ten if they’re really stressed out, like we’re gonna take a little bit more longer to calm the nervous system. Cause we really got to get them feeling safe and feeling secure and held. And so it’s all about crafting a safe environment. But then we’re just inducing them through a s there’s a lot of different ways to undo somebody. There’s a lot of ways to have them do do do their hands and look at their fingers and have them get get in and into a trance just by doing something with their hands. Or a lot of the times your eyes are closed and I’m literally walking them through a beautiful forest on a trail and I’m

I’m having them visualize as they’re going down these steps and as they go down these steps, they’re getting deeper and deeper and deeper into a s a state of conscious, relaxed awareness. And I’ll I’ll use three, two, one, and go to sleep. And they’re not gonna sleep, they’re just gonna like go more relaxed. So I literally have these levels of plateaus, spiral staircases, elevators, different ways of just literally taking them down to a lower subconscious state. That’s it. Sometimes it can take five minutes, sometimes it can take fifteen minutes. It depends on the person.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (16:54.536)
And what I’m hearing here is that it’s necessary to first change the state before being able to influence the content. And this one of the things that jumps out at me is this speaks to why for many people things like affirmations don’t necessarily work. Because if I stand in front of the mirror and just say, I’m handsome and rich and successful and strong and yet my subconscious knows, you’re not, you fat piece of crap.

Aaron James Yager (17:21.07)
Right, right. That’s called the wedge. That is the wedge. You’ve got to here’s a conscious mind and the subconscious mind. That belief we can sit there and say six hundred times a day those affirmations. Now, subconscious mind likes repetition. Six hundred times is a lot of times. You’d have to be doing that all day. So we can bypass the wedge in between the conscious and unconscious mind by doing these induced states, getting down into the the deeper stage. And any suggestions that you give it, whether you can consciously hear them, most of them you cannot. They’re subject.

Subconscious, like you literally, I could be playing them in the headphones, and I do this in in in our breath work as well, is we’re throwing in like abundance, like we’re putting in really, really good affirmations and what we call suggestions deep into the unconscious mind when you’re in those states. When you’re sleeping, you can put on affirmations recorded all night, and that’s gonna be going into your subconscious mind because you’re literally still hearing it. You don’t have to be conscious for these things to work. In fact, they work even better when they’re at the subconscious state.

So that’s why we do this work. That’s why it can be so much faster. In fact, let me show you there’s a there’s a study. I need to remember the the dates and how many participants, but there were thousands of participants and they have the difference between talk therapy and hypnotherapy. Now I’m not speaking bad badly about talk therapy. I have a lot of clients that do both, that’s okay. But what they showed out of thousands of people was talk therapy in about four hundred sessions had about a thirty five to thirty eight percent take rate and result. Good.

Be expensive. It could take a long time to get 400 sessions in. Hypnotherapy in only six sessions had a 92 to 96% take rate in results. So what do you want to do? A lot of entrepreneurs, a lot of high performers I work with, like they want to take this route, right? You’re going to have the more profound effect and it’s lasts. It stays there because we’re doing the deeper unconscious work, not just talking about it in the conscious world.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (19:12.408)
Wait, did people actually do literally hundreds of sessions of talk therapy?

Aaron James Yager (19:17.356)
I have had people that come to me be like, well, I’ve been doing talk therapy for six years, doing it every other other day and spent so much money. And like, I I don’t feel like I’m I’m where I want to be. It’s like, well, we need to go deeper. I actually have talk therapists and psychologists like refer me business because they’re handling what they know how to do, but I’m I’m good at taking them deeper and we can get results like that.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (19:18.498)
Time.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (19:39.809)
Yeah. It it’s so fascinating to me these parallels between working with psychology and behavior and working with the body, because if someone is dealing with an injury and you’re trying to do corrective exercise, say you’re trying to help them with pelvic control and get them to work on their glut mediaus, you can have them do exercises all day long, but if their nervous system is inhibiting because it doesn’t feel safe to activate that glut mediaus muscle, they’re not going to be able to change their gait pattern and get rid of that Trend Ellenberg gait or whatever it

whatever the pattern might be. And so using something like the newbie there to accelerate that process of neuromuscular education, to speak to in the same way, the subconscious the of nervous system and motor control to provide that that neurological input to allow the nervous system to actually engage that muscle can change the movement pattern without that person having to think about it. And you’re essentially describing the same process here

Aaron James Yager (20:08.165)
Yeah.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (20:36.65)
for psychology and behavior. And I think that is that’s the same thing where if someone has a particular belief or pattern and they keep talking about it, going through talk therapy or keep thinking about it, same thing. You’re just it’s like it’s like pushing that boulder uphill. It’s just it’s it’s going to be a a never-ending struggle. It’s gonna be a lot more difficult. You’re literally going against against the grain on this. And you’re you’re talking about a way of just sort of

Breaking through, it’s like going downhill instead of uphill. Literally.

Aaron James Yager (21:07.428)
Right, right. It’s it’s just there’s a different way of doing it. And and our subconscious mind loves consistency. But if you look at we are right now, you and me in this present moment, we are the sum total of our thoughts, words, and actions, our decisions up to this point. And we can also be our worst enemy in that without knowing what we’re doing, we could be continued causing the problems that are going on in our body, the way we’re moving, the way we’re getting in the habit of doing these things. You move the wrong way too much, you’re gonna have things that are gonna get out of whack in your body.

Which is why you go to NewFit to help get it reinstalled and that neurological connection to let’s say like the hip or the or the glute where it wasn’t firing normally. Okay, we want to create those commands and while they’re doing the movements, the squat or the lunge while the machine’s on, it’s recoding in. Hey, let’s think about that. Like you know, I was working with one of your one of your team members there, Margaret, Mary Margaret, she was doing a doing a great job. And we’re we’re talking about like

Okay, what’s the thought process here that needs to go with the mechanical move? So that while I’m in it, sometimes it’s painful. We’re saying that in our mind. Now that’s a conscious world version. The cool thing is what I do with the new fit we have out here in and in Utah is I induce people into a hypnotic state and we do movements and we have them hooked up to the new fit. So we’re combining these worlds and in a in a in a workout, like we’re not fully working out while they’re in a subconscious state, though we can play with that with certain people, they’re laying on a table.

And the first one thing we do is the reset, the nervous system reset. We have the red on the neck, the black on the feet, like you taught me so many years ago. And we have you turn to 18 to 20 around there on the setting of 500. And literally we’re resetting people’s nervous systems. And this is a lot of the work that I do in person. I’ll turn on the new fit first. We’ll do breath work with it, get their s nervous system to clear things out. Sometimes that even induces crying, crying, release, letting go of their whole body.

And then as we do breath work and getting them into a hypnotic state, we keep that machine on to keep clearing stuff out. It literally drops the the the bridges, the the the masks, the the walls that people have up to protect themselves where they’ve closed their heart off. This opens everything up beautifully when we combine the machine with the subconscious work.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (23:25.006)
So you talked at the beginning about how emotions are gifts because it’s the full experience. It’s not it’s not reasonable if there’s six or eight basic emotions that we think about sadness, fear, love, joy, shame, guilt, whatever. You know, it’s it’s unreasonable to think that we’re only gonna be happy all the time, right? We have these fear fear has a biological purpose. So does anger, right? It motivates us to change circumstances. So does sadness. I mean, there’s all these different so so

Aaron James Yager (23:44.271)
Right.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (23:52.985)
Emotions have that, and yet we can sort of they it can feel unsafe within the system to feel certain emotions, and that can drive certain behaviors, of course. And one of the things that occurred to me as you’re as you’re talking about that is that the reset helps to calm the sympathetic nervous system, increase the parasympathetic system. And that what happens when we’re vigilant, when we’re concerned about potential sources of threat and danger and harm, we get more sympathetic activity, fight or flight response. And so

Aaron James Yager (23:59.003)
Yep. Yeah.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (24:23.018)
If you’re if you’re in an environment where it could be an internal environment where you’re feeling an emotion or thinking about a memory that would cause you to perceive that as threatening, your autonomic nervous system is gonna is gonna shift. But if you have this countermeasure causing more parasympathetic activation, that can reduce your perception of threat, allow you to feel a greater sense of safety with this new thing and allow you to experience that in a different way and sort of

train the nervous system to see that, hey, it isn’t so dangerous after all to remember this experience or to feel this emotion. And it can sort of desensitize that is is the model that I’m hearing and sort of describing, trying to reflect back there. So does that is that congruent with what you’re describing?

Aaron James Yager (25:07.31)
You’re right. You a hundred percent. And we’re talking about doing this quickly. This doesn’t have to take weeks or months. We’re talking about years of talk therapy or months of talk therapy in just a few sessions. Because we’re we’re literally rewiring the the subconscious mind and getting it w in that area because all the areas of our body. There’s a great book called The Body Keep Score. Depending on which side it is, masculine or feminine, depending on where it is in the body, we have

There’s other books out there for decades and decades and decades have researched and compiled these thick, thick books about, hey, if there’s a thing right here in the middle of the back on more on the right side, this isn’t gonna be a mother wound. This mother wound is about this, this, and this, these emotions. They’re stuck in our body in certain times. So we’ve literally mapped the body in terms of so me as a when I’m asking people what their challenges are, what their injuries are, what’s going on, I’m finding out where in their body the stuff is stuck.

And when people are connected to the new fit and things are coming up, they’re starting to well up and cry and feel sadness. I’m like, great, where in your body are you feeling the sadness? Well, like, no, it’s everywhere. It’s like, no, where specifically? well, it’s over here. It’s right here, is the worst. Okay. Then we know that that’s gonna take us down a little different route when we’re gonna do hypnotherapy. But all of this with the new fit, the newbie, and this kind of work is like getting people more self-aware of where.

These emotions or feelings are trapped in their body so that we can heal them, integrate them, let them let them be felt and release them.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (26:39.512)
There’s a couple different parts of this I w I want to explore further. I I do want to talk you’ve mentioned breath work a couple of times, so want to go there. But first, I’m I’m curious to hear more about

This process of

So how bringing up d well, let me phrase it a little differently. To what degree if if if someone is being driven by a pattern, say say someone has a pattern of being in a home environment where they weren’t allowed to express anger, so they had to put on a happy face, to to what degree does one have to actually go back through and relive some of the emotions and reprocess some of the conversations that the younger version of them had with a parent?

versus just go into the subconscious and say it’s okay to be angry and and sort of bypass that altogether.

Aaron James Yager (27:34.447)
Yeah. Yeah. Great question. so I imagine people listening who just haven’t really heard about this stuff or maybe even have and have have been afraid to do this work because it’s the shadow work, it’s the deeper, darker work that can can be heavy and hard, right? A lot of people want to avoid those heavy emotions. and that’s okay. working with somebody like myself, we create an environment where like, hey, we’re gonna feel it. I say you gotta feel it to heal it.

We’re human beings, not human doings. We are here to feel all the spectrum of emotions. We’ve just been conditioned that there’s some bad and some good. So when we get to that, like like say anger, like you said, when we’re going backwards to, let’s say, seven years old when X event happened, and it was horribly traumatic. We are not going back to relive and talk about it. We are going back to, and there are there are modalities that are difficult to describe, but we’re not jumping into there’s association and disassociation.

Association means you’re looking through your eyes as that person when you go back. That seven-year-old who went through the thing. We don’t want you necessarily in it to re-experience it. We want you to be looking at yourself from outside yourself, like in a picture frame. Does that mean? So there’s different modalities that we use as hypnotherapists to keep people safe while still being able to understand what those emotions were, what they were, how they happened, who caused them. There’s conversations. The inner child work is really beautiful. Like most, a lot of what I do.

most of the first five or ten sessions I’m working with somebody’s we’re going back to zero to ten and we’re going in healing and then it’s not necessarily reliving or like, my God, you’re gonna relive it and you’re gonna feel everything. No, it’s from a way and with different perspectives to give people the power back that they left or to heal that poor child who’s in a loop. They got left. They got abandoned. So that abandoned part of us keeps trying to to show up. So if you can imagine a whole world full of adults,

But if you look at them, they’re their inner child showing up in the relationship. That’s why they keep breaking up and having these problems. At work, they’re showing up as an inner child because they’re getting triggered. We may be in these adult suits, but there’s an inner children are running the the pattern because they they think that you’re still the inner child that’s unsafe. So whatever those emotions are anger, sadness, regret, fear, rage, we’ve got to go into those. And yes, there’s gonna be some feeling, but I once you start getting to it, it’s amazing. You know, everybody has fear.

Aaron James Yager (29:57.477)
Courage is the way that we step into it. But once you get past that initial thing, you realize it wasn’t that bad, no matter how how difficult the trauma. And I’ve talked, I’m talking, I’ve dealt with some things that are horrible things that I couldn’t even repeat. Things you’ve seen on movies, worse than movies, that kind of stuff has happened to people. It’s real. but once they get through that emotion and they’re actually able to go about it in a unique way instead of it just being a flood of reliving it, that’s not what we’re after here. Does that do make sense? Does that help?

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (30:25.868)
Yeah, for sure. So it is you can’t just bypass it, but you don’t you don’t necessarily have to relive it either. There’s there’s a way there’s a way to to deal with the experience, to take away some of that emotional charge and reactivity and and change how you relate to it.

Aaron James Yager (30:32.112)
Exactly.

Aaron James Yager (30:44.602)
Yep. Yes. Yep. And sometimes, honestly, you don’t have to talk therapize it. You don’t have to hypnotherapize it. You don’t have to breathwork it. Literally, there’s just some emotions. You just gotta feel. And just generally from like the 77 seconds to 80, 90 seconds, when you just lean into it and start to get better at this stuff. I has some of my clients would just feel it and I let them feel it and be in it and cry and scream and hit or do whatever they need to do. And once it passes through,

There’s no nervous system gets used to being able to allow these emotions to come up. Maybe it’s a 10, 10, 10, 10, and it’s a six, and then okay, it’s a four. Okay, it’s not as and then fear comes in, but it only hits like a three and then goes away. What we don’t want is the emotion coming in at 10, getting stuck there, don’t want it to feel it, okay, I’m just gonna shove it under the thing, but it’s still a 10 underneath the surface. It’s still gonna, it’s gonna come around in dis ease or an injury later on. We wanna be able to bring these emotions in and let them leave our body. So we’ll just get better and better at that.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (31:40.087)
And and some of these conversations helped me tremendously. I’ll share a little personal experience here. So I a couple of years before we’re having this conversation, over over two years ago, first separated from my wife and moved out of the house where we lived together with our kids. And it was it was kind of ironic. I thought, yeah, I’ll be fine. I’m just concerned about my kids. It turns out they were fine and it it the grief was was

way more intense for me than I imagined. And when I really sat with it, the the grief of just sort of losing that family life that that we had, it felt it literally felt suffocating. It was like my chest closing in, throat closing up, like it was it was crazy to and and it was so intense. And going through this process of actually just having thankfully

Aaron James Yager (32:21.466)
Yeah.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (32:34.828)
you had conversations just like this and learned that okay, I don’t I I I can handle this, I can get through it, and feeling that feeling and just being with it. And then there were there were waves of that over the first few weeks where I would feel it pretty intensely for, you know, a minute here, a minute there, and then it would eventually got better and better. And going through that, now grief all of a sudden, I mean it’s certainly not

a grief seeker. I’m not going out and seeking it out. But but now but now it’s a lot less scary having experienced that. And I noticed that in times when like if I have to if I have to let someone go from from our team at Newfit, for example, which thankfully is very rare, few and far between, but it happened once since then. And before when I had to do it, it was almost unbearable, the fear of like letting someone go, or you know, I develop relationships with people and it’s very tough.

Aaron James Yager (33:02.072)
Right. Right.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (33:30.058)
And having gone through that, it was it was still challenging, but it was it was a lot it was fascinating how it was easier to do in the sense that I wasn’t as scared, I wasn’t as concerned or or as overwhelmed by that internal feeling, that part of it. It was a really interesting experience. And I think that’s a big part of what you’re describing here. That’s something that you coach people through to accelerate that process so they can feel that feeling without it, without it being so overwhelming. It’s just

The hitting the accelerator and doing it way faster.

Aaron James Yager (34:02.124)
Exactly. And as business people, you you have to hire and let go of people. Hire slow, fire fast. Like it just doesn’t have to be an emotional thing, right? It’s it’s like sometimes we get held back by our emotions or by these I want to be loved, I want to be liked, I don’t want to be the bad person. Whereas you got other people just like, nope, we’re gonna fire you, we’re done. Don’t take it personally, ’cause it’s just business, you know. It depends on our upbringing, it depends on what what is our internal operating system on. Are we

Afraid of losing love by firing somebody. Yeah, I was the same way. I feel terrible letting somebody go when I knew it was the right decision. And then if I didn’t do it in time, it got worse and worse and worse inside of me and for the company.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (34:41.474)
Yeah. And that’s interesting. That’s one of the big things for many people listening to this are business owners like you and me. And it is interesting to think about at times when I’ve had problems in my business, I’ve had to take a take a sip of humble soup and look in the mirror and be like, huh, how am I how am I causing this? And it’s turns out that some of these different patterns in in me were

manifesting as issues in the business. So th it it really put a a fire under my butt to work on some of this stuff.

Aaron James Yager (35:17.38)
Yeah, I I’m glad you brought that up because businesses and our relationships are the best mirror back to us of what’s going on the inside. Your external world is a direct reflection of what’s going on inside the world. So if you’re not getting the results that you want outside in this 3D reality, what is it inside of myself that I am not acknowledging or loving? Let me say that again. If there’s something inside of you that another person, significant other, tell me dating, wife, husband,

or business or employee continually is triggering something and you say they’re doing this, it’s where am I maybe doing this to myself? Where am I doing this in my life and I am not consciously seeing it? Where is the shadow, the stuff that’s in the shadow doesn’t mean it’s bad or negative. It just means it’s not getting light or love shined on it. Everything, all the emotions deserve love and light inside of us. It’s if we let things get too dark, too deep, too long, they start to rupture our system.

So you’re you everything is a mirror. Everything is a mirror. You start to like, as you do this work, you get to seek out the struggle, the the hard times, the not not seek them out as like, I want to have hard times. It’s when they come up, it’s like, ooh, here’s an opportunity to grow. Maybe there’s something I’m not seeing. And the sooner I see that and love that and process that, everything else is gonna get better. So you start to see this kind of a work as a game, as fun. We’re here to be a human being and have a great ascension.

but it’s gonna be much more beneficial. You’re gonna have an easier life, you’re gonna have better health, better relationships, everything if you do this inner work.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (36:51.404)
Yes, there’s reminds me of a Wayne Dyer quote that I quoted in a presentation recently, that we don’t attract what we want, we attract who we are. And that is a great, a great concise way of really capturing that. I I love that. So in this process, we’re talking a lot about influencing the subconscious mind and hypnotherapy and going deeper. Where where does NLP I and this I’m speaking as someone who doesn’t really know, you know, just knows kind of

Aaron James Yager (37:03.044)
Yeah.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (37:21.57)
big picture a little bit about what it is, but is does NLP influence the certain words and language that you use? Is that that’s my understanding of it. It’s more about language and the way that affects the psychology. But where where does that sort sort of is that part of hypnosis or is that something that you combine with it, just to kind of orient?

Aaron James Yager (37:39.387)
Yeah. So there is hypnotherapy built into NLP practices. NLP is a foundation. For me, I my my brother, my sister in law, they are also in the same work. They’re actually NLP master practitioners and trainers. I’m a master practitioner, but they’re they went to on the level where they get to train people into become NLP experts. and so y so it’s yes and yes and yes. NLP exactly.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (38:03.392)
N L P by the way is neurolinguistic programming. I can’t remember if we actually said that or not, but

Aaron James Yager (38:06.988)
Neuro, I think I I might have said that in the beginning of the neurolinguistic programming. It is the science of the mind and the way that we’re sp speaking about ourselves, the way that we’re speaking outside out loud to the world, how we see ourselves. It it’s got a set of tools inside of it that can help you from creating better standards, better values, knowing your core values. It’s a way of helping transform your your your map and your view of yourself and the world is a way for you to operate better.

It’s that it’s how we redo the operating system that’s built into our code. We’re all computers kind of walking around with the software code. It is the way, it’s like how coders code software. Now AI is doing that. We get to recode our bodies and our minds and our experiences. So NLP is that like language and how to actually code yourself and recode yourself. Hypnotherapy is a piece of that. They can go hand in hand. There’s a lot of when I’m in a hypnotherapy session, I’m bringing in tools from NLP.

So it’s kind of like, you know, you’re you’ve got a baseline of tool sets and we’re gonna use them wherever we see it fit. so hopefully that answers your question. And an NLP is like some people don’t want to go learn it to go teach it or be a coach. They just wanna learn it for themselves. Because once you start learning how to see yourself a little bit differently and get these tools that’ll help you self self improve, they’re bit much better than just reading a book. Like the NLP is a really foundation amazing foundation.

If you want to increase your better your ability to sell to people, go learn NLP sales techniques. If you look at all the best orators in the world in the last 20, 30 years, the ones who are politicians, they’re very, very trained in NLP. They are very you look at some of the best you know, Bill Clinton’s, you’ve got Obama, great orators, so good at speaking. They are very good at and certain other politicians are really good at.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (39:49.164)
Yeah.

Aaron James Yager (40:03.002)
You ever you ever see them ask get asked a question and they have an answer and you got into trance and you don’t done they didn’t really answer the question, but they answered it? And you’re like, huh, that’s an LP. It’s the ability because you can transit. Now it can be used for good and bad. It’s it can be manipulative if you learn how to do that and you’re you’re not somebody of good heart and wanting to dance to damage people or manipulate people.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (40:11.15)
Ha ha ha.

Aaron James Yager (40:28.44)
And so learning this just as yourself, you want to know and be able to protect yourself. Cause there are people that do not use this for for good. I don’t really want to like to put that out there, but look, when this is used for yourself and for improving your life and improving your relationship with your kids, listen, here’s one thing you learn in NLP: our subconscious mind does not process negatives. So when you say, Don’t go run in the street, the don’t, the unconscious mind it hears, go run in the street. So we want to say

The opposite of that. What are we really trying to say instead of how the society tells us to do so many, so many signs? Do not do go here. You know, it’s like the government didn’t realize that till later. Now, hopefully, signs have been changing over the years, but like we need to look at that. And when we’re telling somebody, it’s a how to persuade them and lead them in the direction you want them to go. That’s why it’s really great in sales.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (41:18.186)
It’s the difference between an anti-war rally and a pro-peace rally. It’s so one of the other things you mentioned along the way is breathwork. And that’s something that I think everyone listening to this knows that breathing is a portal into influencing the autonomic nervous system. Can you share a little more about your experience? Cause you’ve gone really deep on breath work. Share a little more about how how you use it in your life with clients. Cause I know you have some very, very good perspective here.

Aaron James Yager (41:22.362)
There you go. Exactly.

Aaron James Yager (41:48.143)
I love breath work so much. And I think a lot of people, especially with the psychedelic revolution going on, a lot of people want to jump to, I’m gonna go do a mushroom journey. I’m gonna go do a journey with so-and-so shaman and all that. I think that’s great, cool. but when people come to me and they wanna do that, and now I have been trained with medicine over a number of years with certain experts. I sat with medicine, I learned ceremonially, not recreation recreationally. And

Breath work can do so much of what the psychedelics can do. We don’t need the psychedelics, but people like to push the easy button. Breath work is the gateway to getting in touch with yourself, to allowing yourself to control your state just from your breath. For example, we’re not taught this stuff in school, unfortunately. So there’s certain ways to upregulate or downregulate your system just by way you’re your breathing. So when you breathe in shorter in your nose, like a short breath, but then exhale much longer than your inhale.

You’re down regulating your system. That’s what you want to do at nighttime. You want to bring your nervous system down before breath, before anytime you’re anxious, excited, had too much coffee, things like that, you want to bring and control your state with your breath. We’re talking five, 10, 15 breaths, and you can already start to feel a difference. If you you reverse that, if you breathe in longer and out shorter, it’s like coffee. It’s like energy. You’re up-regulating yourself. So with our breath,

You can literally activate our human intelligence that’s built into our DNA to to control your state and also to process emotions without having to talk about it. The way I the best best description I like to have when I’m doing my group breath work sess situations is you go go watch a National Geographic or annual planet kind of a show. And there’s the scene where the the predator, let’s say the cheetah, is just going after a bunch of gazelles.

And those cheetahs are incredibly fast. It’s all slow motion. And you just got the one that’s getting away. And the predator maybe gets the one closer and almost kills this one. And it stays on this one. And we know that this gazelle just went through a life-changing event, a traumatic event. It knows it almost died. In fact, it probably got scratched getting away. But the gazelle and the mammals have something unique that we don’t because we have the prefrontal cortex. That gazelle.

Aaron James Yager (44:09.882)
That just had a it almost died and its heart is pumping. It is in trauma response. It can start to shake its body and it shakes the trauma off. Shakes off, gets right back to, okay, I’m happy, I’m here. This is my purpose as an animal. This is what I go do. Just like that. Humans don’t really have that shake off ability, but we do. That’s breath work. We get to through certain somatic breathing in through the mouth, out through the mouth, always consist continually

Like somatically through our mouth for an extended period of time is our shakeoff ability. We literally can let go of stuff like that. Months and years of talk therapy done in one or two sessions. You can because our body knows how to get rid of it. Our body knows how to shake it off and how to let it go. So that’s power. It’s so powerful when you do the right kind of breath work. Holotropic breeding is really, really wonderful, but that’s kind of more psychedelic states. I go for somatic breath work with headphones, with music.

with my voice in there so that people can have their own bubble, but also be a part of a collective. And we’re able to induce theta while we’re doing breath work and rewire and let go of things so much faster. That’s why I literally have people who’ve never done breath work before see the weirdest, strangest things because we’re releasing DMT naturally in the system. And it’s allowing them to connect with their deeper self. So breath work’s incredibly powerful. And people, like if you just do one long, deep, intense session a month,

That’s 12 times a year, you’re letting go of shit. You’re just getting stuff out of your body. It’s 12 opportunities to let go where you normally don’t. So I just suggest that once a once a once a a month. But if you can do more than that and get a daily practice or a weekly practice, my God, it can literally change your life to where you don’t need to talk therapy. You’re literally just letting this stuff out.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (45:57.583)
That’s great idea. I love I love the concept of fasting one day a month or fasting once a quarter. I love this idea of doing a a breathwork cleanse on perhaps a monthly basis or something. That’s a great idea. I’ve got one one of several takeaways from me personally from this.

Aaron James Yager (46:12.538)
Good. Yeah. And that’s why I I every other Wednesday I do a free, full sand breath work. My my my tallow company, my skincare company sponsors it, but it’s like I just I have people from China, India, Africa who are jumping on at random hours to come join us every other Wednesday because like do people need this more access to it? Now I charge a good amount of money to do this stuff privately and I do come into events and do all that. But I’m like, you what? I just I wanna help people not only clear up their skin and have better looking skin, but also like clear away the stuff. So

We’ve I don’t know how long we’re gonna be doing it for, but that’s one of those things like they just keep showing up because they’re like they feel so much better in their life when they do. Stress levels come down, cortisol levels come down. They’re just like happier people. So breath work combining with and what I love doing breath work is breathwork on the newbie. When you’re into ner your nervous system is being reset and you’re doing the breath work, it is it is phenomenal. It can have really, really great results, or you’re timing it before after. Like it’s the combination of

Of the Nubia, that has been so much fun to play with.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (47:13.698)
That’s awesome. I love that. And one of the things that you mentioned here was how a lot of your work is one-on-one and also these groups. And so I know you’ve told me about this Viking trip that you go to Norway and some of these things. So can you talk a little bit about some of the the work that you do, some of the group work and give us a little sense of more of the the offerings that you have?

Aaron James Yager (47:33.967)
Yeah, yeah. I I so I do work with people remote like this or in person. I have a two day event that where people fly in to come do spend it’s a break breakthrough initiation. It’s basically full send, pour gasoline on the fire. We’re gonna get all your stuff in two days. It’s like ten years of trauma out in two days with the new Beav Machine, biohacking, all my best tools are put into a two day event in this beautiful area called Hebrew Hebrew City, Utah, right up in the mountains.

So that’s something else I do. I can do individual and group there. But what I what I do privately is like all stuff I can’t really talk about. It’s one on one is like this or in person as well. So I love those kind of containers. and then I love creating experiences. I love creating and crafting an experience that is not only fun, involves travel, but is transformational. And so a lot of entrepreneurs are high performers. I like to get them out of their comfort zone. And Norway is one of my favorite places. I actually have

tattoos of of runes on here that I got in Norway at my Viking event. I’ve been to Norway a number of times and I crafted a an an event that’s not it’s it’s a take a mastermind and flip it on the side. I want to be outside more. I want to be in this beautiful area. I want unique speakers to come in, but I want us to be outdoors rowing a Viking ship together, learning how to shield wall, learning how to cook like a Viking, literally tapping into the ancient ways, the ancient ways of the

the positive of masculine and feminine, the way that they used to to to balance that. And so we fully engage and let go of the outside world and we truly learn how to become Vikings and learn from the ancient ways. And so this is one of many trips that I do in different areas of the world. The Viking one’s just really, really fun. And it’s a way to help people shed their own self. So we’re doing breath work, we’re doing hypnotherapy, we’re doing meditation in a cave with a thousand candles. We’re doing this

all without your phones, all completely resetting your whole body and nervous system in some of the most beautiful places in the world in Norway. And we’re having adventure and fun. So that’s what I like to do is push everything together in my experiences. And I don’t do them every single year. The next way I am doing another one in 2027. It’s the Viking Initiation or awakenheviking.com and that’s that’s where you can go learn more about it and like and go apply for it. But it’s a it’s a selective group of people. It’s all application only. I have to

Aaron James Yager (49:58.571)
Really love who you are and and make sure it’s a good fit. And I’m probably only gonna take twenty people this next year, this next time.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (50:06.41)
That’s so cool. I remember hearing about that and just thinking, wow, that’s that’s awesome. So is there any more so I I do want you mentioned the Awaken the Viking website. I wanna give you a chance to share more your social media and website and stuff like that. But before we do, is there anything more that you think needs to be said? Of course there’s there’s hours more that could be said. Anything more to round out the topics that we’ve covered in terms of hypnosis, the subconscious

Aaron James Yager (50:12.303)
Yeah, it’s so much fun.

Aaron James Yager (50:37.518)
Yeah. Those of you listening, if you are struggling anywhere in your life, and when I say struggle, I mean being really honest with yourself about like, hey, you’re you’re stuck, you’re hurting, you know, you’re trying to put off a bit, you put on a good mask on a good show and try to be perfect or try to show that you’re not hurt inside. But if you are in any way, and there’s a spectrum of people willing to wanting to take their lives and just acting like everything’s normal, or people

Or not. And they’re just, they’re just trying to kind of get by. If you’re feeling that, reach out to me. Reach out to someone else who does this kind of work. Because the moment you start doing this kind of deeper work, as scary as it might feel right now, to lean into fear, like I’ve just seen too many people losing their lives and things crumbling when it could have been avoided if they would just face the stuff that’s inside. So take the leap.

Reach out to the right people. And even if I’m not the right fit, I will introduce you to a community or other people that do this kind of work that I trust that I’ve worked with personally or trained. Because there’s no, there’s no reason to live life. It life doesn’t have to be so fucking hard. It really doesn’t. It doesn’t have to be so painful either. No matter what you’ve been through, and I’ve seen horrible, horrible things happen, we can get you on the other side of that. So just give yourself the gift of like leaning in a little bit to the the the courage inside of you.

And make the call, reach out, invest in yourself so that you can live a much more joyful life. that’s out there. So that’s the what I want to do is that the call to action, the call to arms of just like honor yourself and tell yourself the truth.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (52:16.728)
I love that. That’s beautifully said and a gracious offer as well here. So if people wanna watch your work on social media, go to your website. What are the other places beyond awaken the Viking dot com to see you?

Aaron James Yager (52:30.778)
Yeah. in the main stuff you can kind of find everything at Aaron James Yeager.com. It’s double A. So A A R O N James J A E S Yeager, Y A G E R dot com. It’s my main kind of portal. That’ll have links to everything. I’ve got a great YouTube channel that’s been growing. I’ve got content on there. And Instagram are my my biggest places to find me with content. And it’s again at Aaron James Yeager. I don’t go by AJ anymore, like you know me. I go by Aaron James. And so I’m just going with the whole name, just throwing it out there.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (52:54.798)
That’s right.

Aaron James Yager (53:00.002)
And so yeah, that’s it. That’s and then and then in on any of those you can reach out to me. It’s either gonna be my team or myself personally responding.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (53:07.926)
Awesome. So in in closing here, I almost called you age agent. In closing here, Aaron, there’s old habits, right? Old patterns. Old patterns are are difficult to break and they can be done. Let this let this be an example to you. So if you had Aaron the opportunity to shout one message from a mountaintop for everyone to hear, or put one message on a billboard for everyone to see, what would your message be?

Aaron James Yager (53:13.104)
Good job, you got it. Exactly. It’s in the subconscious.

Aaron James Yager (53:38.149)
Love yourself. Just wake up and love on yourself. No matter what’s going on in your life, what I see coming down to the two two things that it comes down to when people are struggling in their life, lack of self-love, lack of worthiness, feeling not worthy. And so the one I like to focus is like just like love on yourself a little bit more every single day. If you do that, everything can change. Even if everything in your life is pointing towards you not being

loved enough or not being, you know, liked or anything. If you’re just in a place where you are not seen, see yourself first. Love on yourself first. It all begins with you. Again, external world is not what you want it to be. It means is something is going on in here. So that self responsibility and self love is the thing that would lead with everybody.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (54:26.104)
Beautifully said. Great note on which to end it. Nothing beyond I wanna highlight and underscore that. And also say thank you to you, Aaron. It’s been great reconnecting with you here recently. It had been several years since we last saw each other and it was so cool to hear about the work you’ve been doing in the interim. The w of course, I love to hear the way you’ve incorporated the newbie. And it’s just really powerful work. Getting to experience little bits of it myself here is has been

Aaron James Yager (54:41.594)
Yeah.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (54:54.71)
A huge blessing, and I’m grateful to you for the work that you’re doing and for coming on our show and sharing this with New Fit Nation.

Aaron James Yager (55:03.478)
man, thank you so much. And who knows? If everybody likes this, like the comment, let Garrett know, let his team know. And maybe we can do a group event and do a group hypnosis while people are hooked up the machines or something. Like you know, let’s get this out there and let’s really help people understand the machines and understand this kind of work and make it more accessible. So thank you for having me on. Always a pleasure, brother, and looking forward to more adventures.

Garrett Salpeter, NeuFit (55:26.051)
Beautiful. I would I would love to do that. Yes. We’ll talk talk more about it. And thank you for tuning into this episode. And we will see you next time on the Undercurrent podcast. Bye-bye for now.